Session Start: Fri Mar 04 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
[00:58]<@BC_Programming> heh cool... MacPaint and QuickDraw are now "Open Source" in a sense
[00:58]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computerhistory.org/highlights/macpaint/
[00:59]<Craig> Crazy
[01:00]<@BC_Programming> yeah... that source is freaking insane
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> LOL
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> ; FUNCTION Monkey: BOOLEAN;
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> ;
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> TST MonkeyLives ;IS THE MONKEY ACTIVE ?
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> SGE 4(SP) ;YES IF >= ZERO
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> NEG.B 4(SP) ;CONVERT TO PASCAL BOOLEAN
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> RTS
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> " ;IS THE MONKEY ACTIVE ?" that would make a great sigline
[01:01]<Craig> ahahahahahah
[01:07]<Craig> Is it funny source but good, or crazy funny, but bad?
[01:08]<Craig> Oh and the server is locked for a proper render.
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> I don't know, no idea what the language is
[01:08]<Craig> ahh
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> some weird assembly... but one of the other files looks like some sort of BASIC
[01:08]<Craig> probably an original linux distro,.
[01:08]<Craig> Unix or something
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> ?
[01:09]<Craig> Thats from the original mac os rightA?
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> macpaint was written for the original Macintosh
[01:09]<Craig> right*
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> yes
[01:09]<Craig> yeah and that had a unix distro no?
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> hell no
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> not even close
[01:09]<Craig> oh. hahha
[01:09]<Craig> :P
[01:09]<Craig> Learn something new every day
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> you're thinking of OSX
[01:09]<Craig> ahhh
[01:10]<@BC_Programming> OS-X is based off OpenBSD which is a early fork of Unix, if I understand the timeline correctly
[01:10]<Craig> hmmm
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> I added "IS THE MONKEY ACTIVE?" to the minecraft-like startup quotes I have on my splash screen, heh
[01:13]<Craig> hahah Nice
[01:13]<Craig> Wait, how?
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> ?
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> I'm talking about BASeBlock, not minecraft itself
[01:14]<Craig> Ooooh, ok
[01:14]<Craig> heh
[01:14]<Craig> that would have been pretty awesome
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> I'm sure it's possible to change the quotes in the actual minecraft game as well
[01:18]<Craig> http://www.wimp.com/youtypical/
[01:24]<Craig> http://www.wimp.com/upgradingwindows/ <-- you'll like this.
[01:47]<@BC_Programming> made a vid of the new baseblock with camtasia
[01:47]<@BC_Programming> heh turned out alright... I made a level with a creeper face
[01:47]<Craig> Cool, is it up?
[01:47]<@BC_Programming> not yet, just opening camtasia studio now to edit it
[01:47]<Craig> 45,000 chunks!
[01:47]<Craig> Holy crap. :P
[01:49]<Craig> I'm goin to sleep, the server should start automatically at 3am
[01:49]<Craig> Sorry 3:45 am
[01:50]<@BC_Programming> cool
[01:51]<Craig> The map is currently rendering, hopefully it wont be corrupted this time.
[01:58]<Craig> Can you edit this file? http://minecraft.brokedcomputer.com/BC_Programming
[01:59]<@BC_Programming> how do you mean? directly off the server?
[01:59]<@BC_Programming> there are programs that can edit those minecraft dat files
[01:59]<Craig> nah, from your computer
[02:00]<Craig> thats a file extracted from the dat file.
[02:00]<@BC_Programming> yes. you can edit it with NBTEdit, I believe
[02:00]<Craig> I can read some of the text but not the values
[02:00]<Craig> I was using Notepad++
[02:03]<@BC_Programming> yes
[02:03]<@BC_Programming> you need NBTEdit
[02:03]<@BC_Programming> Named Binary Tag Editor
[02:31]<Craig> ahh
[02:36]<@BC_Programming> seen this yet? http://laughingsquid.com/minecraft-documentary-the-story-of-mojang/
[02:59]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb_bb5Go_h4 there we go
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[09:01]<@jacky> be back later
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[11:26]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb_bb5Go_h4
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> heh used th editor to make a creeper face level
[11:41]<+camerongray> BC! - SORRY!
[11:42]<+camerongray> I accidently burned the creeper down :((((
[11:42]<+camerongray> SO SORRY
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> oh dear
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> better not spread to my tree house
[11:43]<+camerongray> REALLY REALLY SORRY - I hope craig has a backup
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> how the heck did you burn it down anyway?
[11:43]<+camerongray> I right clicked with the flint selected instead of sand
[11:44]<+camerongray> I feel so bad :(
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> actually it's kind of funny, when me and Craig were building the tree house and bridge, I said "ok, camerongray isn't allowed up here... at least not with a flint and steel"
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> because I made it out of wood
[11:45]<+camerongray> lol
[11:45]<+camerongray> Hopefully craig has a backup
[11:45]<@BC_Programming> I cna just spawn materials and build another
[11:45]<+camerongray> Ahh - cool
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> I have like 5 of the things on my single player maps, so it's not like a huge project that I only did once, heh
[11:46]<+camerongray> Ahh - cool
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> perhaps a snow creeper
[11:46]<+camerongray> I was shaking when I did it :P
[11:46]<+camerongray> I noticed a bit missing wool so I went to fix it for you :P
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:47]<+camerongray> At least you can spawn more to rebuild
[11:47]<+camerongray> Once I find out how to remove the huge waterfall from when I tried to put it out
[11:48]<@BC_Programming> you have to use the bucket on the top piece I would think
[11:48]<+camerongray> Yeh - can't get to it
[11:48]<+camerongray> Got it
[11:48]<@BC_Programming> cool
[11:48]<+camerongray> On the bright side it removed that tree that was blocking the view of the creeper
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> heh, yeah I grew that because I needed wood, and couldn't be bothered to remove it when it grew a huge tree
[11:49]<+camerongray> I wish I was doing a screen recording - My reaction would have been priceless
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> heh
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> I wonder, can snow be set on fire? I know snow blocks don't melt
[11:50]<+camerongray> I don't think I'll try to find out :P
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> I know when me Craig and Mulreay changed it to the nether I put some snow blocks in a lava fall and nothing happened to them, heh
[11:51]<+camerongray> Oh - we have a nether map too
[11:51]<@BC_Programming> yeah we can't get there via a portal
[11:51]<@BC_Programming> it requires a settings change and a server r estart
[11:51]<+camerongray> Ahh
[11:52]<+camerongray> It would have to be me to manage to burn down the creeper I was trying to fix for you :P
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> I think it's hilarious actually
[11:53]<@BC_Programming> I should have used another material for the eyes, then the whole thing would have burned down except the eyes
[11:53]<+camerongray> You do - I thought you'd kill me :P
[11:54]<@BC_Programming> well yeah, a creeper statue is cool but it's not a super big undertaking... unless all the materials are gathered manually I suppose
[11:55]<+camerongray> Ahh
[11:56]<+camerongray> I just wish fires would go out if you hit them
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> truly more concerned with my BASeBlock Editor then Minecraft atm, surprised how well it works so far
[11:56]<+camerongray> Yeh - looks great
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> in my latest video I made a creeper face in a level, lol
[11:56]<+camerongray> Yeh - saw that
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> even since that video I finished off the "nudge" feature I added in it as well as adding Cut/Copy/Paste to the clipboard
[11:57]<+camerongray> I need to learn more VB/C# - I'm useless :P
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> I had to do a lot of research for that CH post you made, VB.NET is a bit different to C#, heh
[11:58]<+camerongray> Yeh
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> and I kept trying to type semicolons
[11:58]<+camerongray> I wish my school would upgrade from VB 5 :P
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> wow
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> my high school was moving away from VB6 when I graduated... they are definitely using .NET now
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> I foolishly stuck beside VB6 for far too long I feel... C#, and .NET in general is not the horrible evil abomination I used to paint it as
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> that flashing selection thing was Mulreay's idea, I think it looks awesome
[12:03]<+camerongray> yeh
[12:04]<+camerongray> TBH I don't think my school's PCs could cope with .net :P
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> I still have Visual Studio 2001 beta CDs, lol
[12:05]<+camerongray> lol - They moved to VB from Pascal on iMac G3s just before I started - Phew :P
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> I got Turbo Pascal books from my school since they had migrated from it before
[12:06]<+camerongray> The PCs aren't too bad a spec but they have NEVER been defragmented and are just full of junk
[12:06]<+camerongray> Never used Pascal
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> that was when I had a 386 so Turbo Pascal was not a bad choice for me at the time :P
[12:06]<+camerongray> Ahh 386
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> It's more an education language then a useful one... it's strings are limited to 256 characters
[12:07]<+camerongray> I've got an old 486 - great machine for it's age
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> it was a "server" 386 too
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> it was HUGE... nice executive black case, probably stood about the same height as an Oompa Loompa
[12:07]<+camerongray> lol
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> 40Mhz Processor
[12:07]<+camerongray> Nice - my 486 is 25
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> a MASSIVE 8MB of memory
[12:08]<+camerongray> !g BBC Micro
[12:08]<+camerongray> ^ And one of them
[12:08]<+camerongray> 1.8Mhz and 32kb RAM!
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> well.. I thought it was massive at the time, since my 286 I had before that only had 640K conventional and 384 Extended
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> Can you imagine how hard it was to program for the Atari 2800... don't know the processor speed but it had only 128 <bytes> to work with
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> Console machines always seem to have a lot less memory then you would think
[12:10]<+camerongray> Wow - 128 bytes
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> yeah I can't even imagine how the heck you could do anything with that at all
[12:11]<+camerongray> Oh - The BBC had an adapter that you could use to view teletext :P
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> and that's not even the first console... (the Atari) the first one was teh Magnavox odyssey
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computercloset.org/MagnavoxOdysseyHardware.htm
[12:12]<@BC_Programming> it didn't even have any Integrated Circuit chips
[12:12]<+camerongray> lol
[12:13]<@BC_Programming> It didn't even have a CPU! LOL
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[12:17]<@BC_Programming> like my new idea for the Level Editor... the Level list could be large icons that are thumbnails of the levels
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> that would rule
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> OMG... thumbnails works like a bloody dream
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> I am a genius
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> this editor is pro
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> lol... I can Open that lvlfun.blf I made in the vid and there is a creeper face staring at me in the level listview
[14:29]<Craig> soooo the creper is dead?
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> yeah it appears that camerongray burnt it down
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> by accident of course
[14:33]<Craig> heh
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> made a vid of BASeBlock and it's editor
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> which is now somewhat outdated already
[14:36]<Craig> hahaha, your too fast
[14:36]<Craig> I am not actually at my computer now,
[14:36]<Craig> I am at a customers house working on their computers.
[14:37]<@BC_Programming> ic
[14:37]<Craig> yeah
[14:38]<Craig> its fun
[14:38]<Craig> hahaha, this is gonna be around a 200$ bill... :S
[14:58]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[14:58]<+camerongray> Yeh - I'm an idiot :P
[15:08]<Craig> hhahaaha, only sometimes, :P
[15:08]<Craig> Version two on the way eh?
[15:08]<Craig> Good thing the path I maid is Cobble... :P
[15:08]<Craig> made*
[15:20]<+camerongray> lol
[15:20]<+camerongray> I was trying to fix it but it jumped from wool to flint :P
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> hmm strange weather
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> snowing again
[15:27]<+camerongray> lol - Just read my post when I set fire to the creeper again
[15:27]<+camerongray> It's funny because I thought you were going to kill me!
[15:27]<@BC_Programming> heh
[15:28]<Craig> hahah
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:40] <+camerongray> BC! - SORRY!
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:40] <+camerongray> I accidently burned the creeper down :((((
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:41] <+camerongray> SO SORRY
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:41] <&ChanbotIV> camerongray : Warning: You've triggered caps flood protection, release your caps.
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:41] <&BC_Programming> oh dear
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:41] <&BC_Programming> better not spread to my tree house
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:42] <+camerongray> REALLY REALLY SORRY - I hope craig has a backup
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:42] <&BC_Programming> how the heck did you burn it down anyway?
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:42] <+camerongray> I right clicked with the flint selected instead of sand
[15:29]<+camerongray> [18:43] <+camerongray> I feel so bad :(
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[16:16]<@BC_Programming> this editor is freaking awesome
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> it's like a bajillion times cooler then the one in Poing
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[17:51]<Driver4r> Hello again
[17:53]<Driver4r> i am needing help getting drivers
[17:53]<Driver4r> the card is nvidia
[17:53]<Driver4r> the model is P262
[17:53]<Driver4r> and that is all i know
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[18:25]<Craig> Hello all!
[18:25]<@BC_Programming> hey Craig
[18:26]<@BC_Programming> I'm trying to figure out if the mojang livestream is actually live or if it's recorded or something
[18:26]<@BC_Programming> because if it's live Notch is working on some title screen at 2 AM as it is in Sweden
[18:27]<Craig> He probably is
[18:27]<Craig> hahahahah
[18:28]<Craig> where is the nlive streasm'
[18:28]<@BC_Programming> I'll give you a link... I bookmarked it
[18:28]<@BC_Programming> http://www.livestream.com/mojang
[18:31]<@BC_Programming> don't think it's minecraft related really though
[18:31]<@BC_Programming> I'm not sure
[18:32]<Craig> Sounds like he is teaching someone
[18:32]<@BC_Programming> no, he's probably talking because he's "on air" so to speak
[18:33]<@BC_Programming> it would be rather boring otherwise
[18:33]<@BC_Programming> he may be, though
[18:33]<Craig> hmmm I suppose
[18:33]<@BC_Programming> actually, that might explain who he was talking to at one point, that was what made me think it was recorded
[18:34]<Craig> :P
[18:34]<@BC_Programming> because when I was watching it before he said something about not being able to see the text because it was too small, and then, as if responding to somebody he said "no, I can't make it bigger, I'll still have to fit it in so and so pixels"
[18:34]<Craig> Ahhhh
[18:35]<@BC_Programming> so and so was some specific value, I don't remember; I thought maybe he said that in response to a chat message that was made at the time... but it's what he is doing atm, which is pretty cool in a way
[18:35]<Craig> Guess what!
[18:36]<Craig> I just got a free P4 8yrs old with 80GB drive and 768 ram
[18:36]<Craig> Woot New Server! hahahah
[18:37]<Craig> He needs a better mic, so you cant hear him breathing. :P
[18:38]<@BC_Programming> he's programming, that's very strenous
[18:38]<@BC_Programming> strenuous*
[18:39]<Craig> hahahah
[18:39]<Craig> Yeah tell me about it
[18:40]<Craig> Evar! hahahha
[18:42]<Craig> This is kinda cool actually,
[18:42]<Craig> Is he back from the states?
[18:42]<@BC_Programming> ..I didn't even know he went to the states... or is that where he went to visit his family?
[18:42]<@BC_Programming> I think that was over christmas wasn't it?
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> or feb, or something
[18:43]<Craig> HAHAHAHA I dont have a clue
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> I don't really follow what he does... that's more Thomas's territory
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> Thomas being mulreay of course
[18:44]<Craig> hahahah nice
[18:54]<Craig> wonder who he's talking to in some cases
[18:55]<@BC_Programming> dunno... I closed the livestream, trying to work on my splash screen for no reason now heh
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[18:57]<Craig> HAHAHAHAAH
[18:58]<@BC_Programming> adding falling text... maybe have it choose to use the bobbing text or falling text animators randomly
[18:58]<Craig> interesting
[19:05]<Craig> You up for some minecraft later?
[19:05]<@BC_Programming> nope, gotta work tonight
[19:05]<Craig> aAhh
[19:05]<Craig> Money earner are ya
[19:06]<@BC_Programming> I make enough to live on and keep my site up
[19:06]<Craig> :P
[19:06]<@BC_Programming> no more... I cannot stand that place
[19:06]<Craig> ??
[19:06]<Craig> oH
[19:06]<Craig> Heh you should come and work with me,
[19:07]<Craig> You do programming and I do all the other work,. :P
[19:07]<Craig> (Maybe some websites for you, your better at it. :P (
[19:07]<Craig> )
[19:07]<@BC_Programming> you think so? I never considered myself very good at web stuff really
[19:07]<Craig> Yours all look fancier then mine at the moment
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> the main page design I actually sketched out and then wrote the CSS to that paper design
[19:08]<Craig> ahh
[19:09]<@BC_Programming> forum and blog are just themes of course, although I did have to manually hack the SMF theme to get it working properly
[19:10]<Craig> What time you workin?
[19:10]<@BC_Programming> 11 PM to 7 AM
[19:10]<Craig> ahhhhh
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> and I don't have to deal with customers anymore because I just do the morning bake :P
[19:11]<Craig> heh
[19:13]<Craig> Nice
[19:14]<Craig> Hmmmm question is, where do I add this computer with out blowing a breaker....
[19:14]<@BC_Programming> too many computers, or possibly bad PSU?
[19:15]<Craig> Too many computers.
[19:15]<Craig> :P
[19:16]<Craig> Strait up
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> heh I only have two computers plugged in
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> my power strip is still full though because of all the external hard drives and hubs and stuff
[19:20]<Craig> hahahah I have three 8port power bars, and 1 10 port, all are full except the 110 port.,
[19:20]<Craig> 10* port
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> heh I was going to say... 110 is an awful lot
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[19:38]<Craig> Dang it,. its a 32 bit Kernel
[19:38]<@BC_Programming> what is
[19:39]<Craig> The Motherboard I just got is 32bit
[19:40]<@BC_Programming> kernel is software though... but I know what you mean now :P
[19:40]<Craig> :P
[19:41]<Craig> I am thinking of going fully 64bit Linux servers, in a cloud
[19:41]<Craig> ... I need a garbage can
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[20:05]<Craig> I think I am going to get rid of Plone, and work on Linux only with Lamp and such
[20:06]<@BC_Programming> why not
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[22:19]<@BC_Programming> whew
[22:19]<@BC_Programming> just added a framework for adding enemies
[22:46]<+Craig> Nice
[22:48]<@BC_Programming> heh
[22:48]<@BC_Programming> now I've got megaman running across the screen lol
[22:48]<@BC_Programming> with the proper walking animation... then he turns green and runs off the side
[22:48]<@BC_Programming> heh
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[22:55]<@BC_Programming> I got the idea from Graham again
[22:56]<@BC_Programming> he suggested a block that "hunts" the paddle like a creeper in Minecraft
[22:56]<@BC_Programming> I was thinking of making it so I can add and animate various enemies, and have an easy way to write their AI code, so I did
[22:57]<@BC_Programming> also, I don't think it'll be a creeper... was thinking of making pacman like munchers that try to eat the balls
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